Teri Holland [00:00:00]:
I hope that you are ready for this episode today because it is going to be like drinking from a fire hose of self improvement and inspiration. Welcome back to Success in Mind. In today's episode, I'm joined by a very special guest, sir Darren Jacklin. From conquering Mount Kilimanjaro to overcoming childhood trauma and adversity, Darren's transformative experience and Expert advice will help you to level up your own life and business. Listen in as we discuss the power of relationship building, the impact of making quests, and the value of integrity. Prepare to be inspired as Darren shares with us the keys to success and abundance in both personal and professional realms. You're listening to Success in Mind, the show for high performing leaders, change makers, and entrepreneurs ready to take your life and business to the next level. If you're ready for whole life success, keep listening.
Teri Holland [00:01:00]:
Hi, Darren. Welcome to the show. I'm so glad you're able to join us today.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:01:04]:
I'm grateful to be here, Teri.
Teri Holland [00:01:06]:
I'm gonna jump right into your story because I I read your book, until I become and found your story so captivating and so inspiring that I I really wanna start there and hear from you what your journey has been like.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:01:22]:
Yes. I have a very interesting backstory come up story, their success story. I grew up in a place called Swift Current, Saskatchewan, Canada, A city of less than 20,000 people in population, middle income family. And, in grade 1 of public school, I was misdiagnosed with a learning disability and a reading disability. So he turned by the school, board to put me what we call special education or special end classes from grade 1 all the way through to grade 12. And so I was this kid that was spring into a small room in in Subcurrent, Saskatchewan, and I'm just like, why? I didn't feel like I fit in there. Right? It was really weird to me and awkward to me. And so I adjusted to that.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:01:59]:
And by coming I was 7 years of age, I created my 1st business called Rent A Kid, and I would go out and cut grass, shovel snowed over newspaper 6 stays weak to Regina Leader Post. And I'm 51 years of age today, and my 2 best friends by 2 of those 9 years of age who lived in the same neighborhood as me We're still grateful to this day, 40 plus years later. In fact, I just spoke to both of them just last week because I'm about relationships. Right? I'm relational versus transactional. And so I grew up, went to junior high school and served current, then got into high school, struggled academically the entire way. I was not good at all. I was a d student. I was somebody that was, you know, clumsy in sports, not good in the school system at all, We're really good at making friends and solving problems and being resourceful and figuring things out.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:02:43]:
I was a problem solver. And so by coming out to grade 11, one day, a guidance counselor and a school teacher pulled me out of class one day, out of the special education class, brought me down to the guidance counselor's office, Teri, and they said, What do you plan to do with your life if you graduate from great wealth? So I wanna travel the world. I wanna make a lot of money. I wanna have a lot of fun, make a big difference alone. It's never the money. I just wanted freedom. I wanted options. I wanted choices in my life, and they both looked each other and said, well, Darren, you're never gonna go to university, never gonna go to college.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:03:13]:
You're probably not gonna amount too much past grade 12, like maybe get a union job or government job or a farming job or manufacturing job, but you're not gonna amount to much. And I'm just like, what do you mean? I've been knocking on hundreds of doors as a kid. I've been working at the fairs, the carnivals. I've been running my Renegade Kid business and, You know, I didn't know it was entrepreneurship back then, so I did graduate from grade 12 with a grade point average of 54%. I always say people, I got my PhD, my public high school diploma when I left high school, but I was a d student. When I left school, I felt very, alone, very afraid, very scared. Mhmm. I had no direction, no focus, no purpose.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:03:52]:
I was lost. And so what I did was I went into a deep, dark hole of depression, and I started to do multiple suicide attempts to end my life. And I just felt that I didn't matter. I was never good enough. I was never Smart enough because I had childhood trauma for me being in special education and just feel like nobody had my back to protect me. So here I am, this kid who felt invisible as a kid. I felt I was not good enough, never smart enough, never gonna amount to much in my life, and I had a lot of negative Self talk in my mind, Teri. I was just like a lot of chatter.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:04:22]:
And so I used to drive my car in a 140 kilometers an hour, 85 miles an hour towards a telephone pole. I do this over and over again. I used to visualize suicide. So when I see people on social media today, they're in a dark place or depression or They've got financial or relationship or through business or family challenges. I I can relate. I've been there. I've walked in those shoes more than once with people, and I've had Some peaks and valleys and high highs and lows of my life, and so I ended up my final attempt by driving my car. I got really scared, and I said, I can't do this.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:04:54]:
So I Turned around and I drove myself into a, nonprofit organization that was a 24 hour telephone crisis line, and I did a door buzzer. I rang the buzzer. Lady came to the door, and I said I'm trying to commit suicide. She brought me in. They started to offer me counseling. This is back in the 19 nineties, and then from there, Teri, The lady said, you know, I wanna introduce you to Dale Carnegie. Well, I I didn't know who Dale Carnegie was, so I went to this hotel in Vernon, British Columbia, in the Okanagan Valley, where I actually am today, I go to the property here, and, I went to this hotel called the First Tee Show Hotel, And I'm walking around the hotel lobby, looking for the show by name of Dale Carney, who can be one of my mentor. And one of the hotel staff said, can I help you? You look like, you know, I was lost.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:05:38]:
Right? Tried if I wrote where I was gonna go, and I said I'm here to meet Dale Carnegie. Have you ever heard of the guy? She's, well, he's upstairs in the conference center. So I go up the conference center, and I and I go up there and this says, oh, you're here for the Dale Carnegie training program, the introduction of the 12 week program. And I thought I was just gonna be 1 on 1 with Dale Carnegie. Didn't realize that Dale Carnegie passed away many years ago and created a legacy training development program called the, his 12 week program, and he also wrote a best selling book called How to win friends and influence people. So I went in this introduction seminar that night and I was so moved by the positivity, The collaboration, the communication, the camaraderie, I thought, man, I want this. Like, I I want this. I'll pay whatever price to get access to this.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:06:21]:
And so I signed up for the 12 week program, and I took this 12 week deal Carnegie training program. And in there, I met a lady Who then took me to a Toastmasters international meeting one day in the same city, Vernon British Columbia, Canada. So I went as a guest to Toastmasters. I walked in, And it's a structured formal organization. It's phenomenal. I highly recommend Dale Carnegie and Toastmasters, 2 outstanding organizations that had huge imports and changed my life. So as I'm in the Toastmasters meeting, at the end of the evening, they go around, they ask the guests, then they're there in the evening because we have guest name badges on, If we'd like to stand and just say anything about our experience for the evening. So I stood up and I was so scared, Teri.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:06:59]:
I stood up in the Toastmaster. I I said I was so scared of public speaking that I forgot my name, and I had to look down at my name badge to actually remember my name. And a guy who was in the room, Frank Kitchen, he was 94 years of age, a Toastmasters, but he's passed away in a long time ago. He said to me, Yosallam, that's why you need Toastmasters. Welcome to your 1st introduction. So I signed up, and I had people believe more than me that I believed in myself, which then started to develop my self my belief in myself. I started to change the narrative of my story that I'm not good enough. And then I started voluntarily speaking around the Okanagan Valley of British Columbia, Canada to Rotary Clubs, Women of Business, Chamber of Commerce groups, different business organizations, and I developed my self confidence and skills, And then I got a job as a telemarketer.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:07:46]:
I used to make 400 cold calls a day, 2,000 cold calls a week, calling across Canada from Maclean's Magazine, selling magazine subscriptions across Canada Between 5 and 9 PM, Monday to Friday. And within 7 months, I was the number 1 telemarketer in Canada making thousands of phone calls. And so what happened was after 7 months of at this job as a telemarketer, my boss came to me, Glen, and he said, Darren, this is a dead end road for you. We can't pay anymore. You know, you can't go any further. Is that suggest you give your 2 weeks notice and you go on on your own? I said, well, Glenn, what am I going to do? He goes, well, this Toastmasters thing is working really out for years, speaking a lot Throughout the Okanagan Valley, you're in the speaking competence. I think you should create your own business, become an entrepreneur, self employed person, And you should start, you know, doing what we call corporate training. This is back in the 19 nineties, back in 1995.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:08:34]:
Yeah. So I said, well, how do I do that? He goes, go to the telephone marts back when we used to have the bricks and mortar telephone marts, where you used to pay your phone bill in person, right, or go there and and and look at the products on the store. Go in there and get a stack of telephone books and start dialing for dollars, start calling from a to z in the phone book. You've got a lot of practical experience. I grabbed a stack of phone books and started making 400 cold calls a day, 2,000 calls of me. And in a 5 year period from 1995 to the year 2000, I made over a 100,000 cold calls on my own, and I was like, sometimes I was 2, 3, 4, 5 months on be paying my bills because I had a high rejection rate of what 98% rejection rate, and, I had some challenges financially. I had an r nine credit rating. I got my car repossessed.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:09:19]:
I had to go on welfare for a few months. I ended up living in a tree house because I was homeless. I ended up being on the streets eating my next meal of a garbage dumpster. When I started traveling, doing seminars, I was so financially broke That I would actually stay, in the hotel, like, in the seminar room because I couldn't afford my hotel room to sleep in. So I'd hide and sneak into the room where the flip charts, the overhead projectors, and the extra storage, chairs were in the rooms. And so I know what it's like to have adversities and failures and challenges and have an r nine credit rating, Which through Equifax and Chinese Union Credit is the worst possible credit score you can get in Canada United States. But I've been upside down, choked up financially, not knowing where my next dollar's gonna come from To turn that around and achieve a lot of financial success a day in my life, but I've learned what not to do in my life, and now I know what to do in terms of Daily habits, daily routine, systems and processes and strategies and structure.
Teri Holland [00:10:14]:
Right. That's amazing. Yeah. Like I just What an incredible story. And when you were going through all of those challenges and the struggles, what got you through it? Did you did you know you were gonna succeed or did you like, what kept you going?
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:10:30]:
We know what's interesting? So I used to get this magazine, And I had some people that paid for the subscription for me called Success Magazine, and some people might remember success.com. It's been our this company's been around for a 126 years now, And I'm actually involved with Success Magazine now, with eXp Realty and and and eXp World Holdings. When I subscribe to that, because somebody paid my annual subscription, and every month, I would get a a printed magazine mailed to me, Right? With a compact disc in the middle of that. That was a huge thing I look forward to every month, and then I was a I was an avid reader. Because when I was in school, I really struggled with reading. I was labeled with a learning disability and a reading disability, but I would go to the public library and I would go there, And I would sit in the business and financial and self help section and just immerse myself in training development of books and audio cassette tapes in the early days. And that's what I would do is put myself into a positive environment where I felt that I can win. Like, for example, when I was struggling financially, I would walk around the financial district or walk past the financial services office or a company because I just felt walking by, and I felt smarter.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:11:37]:
Whenever I want to feel smart, I walk into a library around the law office. If I want to create human imagination, I'd walk into an art gallery, walk by an art gallery. So I do these things. If I wanna feel more prosperous and abundance, I would drive around or walk around an affluent neighborhood. Right? Somebody who had beautiful landscaping, so it gives me a different visual Of stimulation saying, okay, I can do this. I can become more successful because I didn't have a lot of positive role models in my life. When I was homeless on the streets on welfare, I was working for a watermelon farmer. I went and got a job as a water with a watermelon farmer, and I was bit picking watermelon cantaloupe from the fields, and then I go and sell on the side of the road And go to the farmer's market, and I talked about it.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:12:17]:
My book until it'd be coming. Mhmm. And while I was on the side of the road, on the highway one day, this guy pulled up in a Lincoln Town Car, And he got on the Lincoln Town Car, and he had 5 1,000 Canadian dollar bills. And the first time I ever saw in my life, because I only saw it on television, A Canadian $1,000 bill. I'd never seen that before. I never I didn't travel in those circles or grew up in those environments where anybody ever had $1,000 bill. Okay. It was so fun to me.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:12:41]:
And this guy, $51,000, I thought, wow. What's this guy do? Is he a drug dealer? Like, what does he do? Like, how does he deal with that kind of money? So the next day, he came by and he bought more watermelon, And he came by 4 days in a row when he was buying watermelon from meth. I thought, wait a second. Why is this guy buying so much watermelon camo? Is he buying a watermelon and selling down the street? So I asked the guy if we go for coffee. I was flat broke financially. I had to borrow a vehicle and borrow some money to actually go meet with this guy. When I went and met with him, he was so impressed with me, he invited me to come to his house, which he lived out in the country. Yeah.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:13:13]:
And I boarded here, I went out in the country, and this guy lived in a beautiful, big, probably 10, A 10, 12,000 doll 10 or 12,000 foot long home. Had to went out there, and this guy became my mentor, and he changed my mindset. It's kinda like the book Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki and Kim Kiyosaki. I met this guy who was a very wealthy man who had a grade three formal education And lived off his money's interest industry. He taught me principles about integrity, about showing up on time, being relational versus transactional. You know, be we become a go giver, not a go getter, and these life principles he taught me when I was struggling and down and out, Over time, when I was consistent with them, shaped my life today where I have a lot of prosperity and abundance in my life. But when I was struggling, you know, when the student is ready, the teachers appear And he appeared in my life at the right
Teri Holland [00:14:04]:
time. Amazing. Yeah. So incredible. How have because, you know, you know, you talk about it in your book and I also am connected with you on Facebook. So I see you talking about relationships and stuff a lot. How have relationships like the one you just talked about, how have relationships helped you to build your business?
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:14:25]:
And Oh, great question.
Teri Holland [00:14:26]:
And how do you grow those relationships?
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:14:28]:
Yeah. So here's something to consider. So I I learned a lot through adversities and failures and challenges and struggles. Like, you know, I've achieved a lot of success. Yes. I've been to Nasdaq and New York City three times during the closing bell. I served for 10 years on on the board of directors of the fastest growing real estate company in the world, We're start up to over 90,000 people in 24 countries, a multi $1,000,000,000 company, but what I learned was as human beings, All we are is a network of conversation. So when we look at that is inside of conversations with strangers, Opportunities get created, but we've gotta be proactive by going out there and having conversations.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:15:06]:
Now I had this self image Challenge, growing up in my thirties to my early forties, where I always want to look good and I never wanted to look bad. So I was always scared to ask People would make requests to people because they didn't ever wanna look bad or look stupid or feel embarrassed. So I'm like, well, I don't wanna ask I don't wanna make a request for something. I don't wanna ask somebody or something. Well, what I realized through a lot of adversity was that when we make a request, when I make a request, I can allow people to Powerfully choose whether they wanna step number 1, accept the request. Step number 2 is decline the request, or step number 3 is counter offer the request. But for every request that we don't make, the answer's always no. So, you know, when children are masters, you go to any grocery store.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:15:49]:
I look at a family with young children when they are at the checkout of a grocery store, and when the kids have the candy section, the chocolate bar section, what are they doing? They go into negotiations of trying to close whoever dad are getting a candy bar, getting chocolate, or getting getting candy. Right? And that's when the negotiation it's all done Potentially marketing at the checkout. So the kidding is kids have no challenge with making requests. So I thought, what if I could turn things into a game just like children? So I'll give you an example. One of the things I talk about my books until I become is when I was a young kid, I had very low self confidence, very low Mhmm. Belief in myself. And so I was scared of girls in school because I was in special education. I thought I was retarded.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:16:27]:
I thought I was stupid. I was never good enough, never smart enough, so why would girl girl over 1 associate or hang out or talk to me. Right? I'm this weirdo kid in school. Right? I'm not a a student or a b student. I'm a I'm a I'm a d student. So what I used to do is I used to take 10 Canadian pennies and put on my left pocket secretly, Teri. And every time I'd say hello or good morning or hi or how are you to a girl, Whether I knew her she was a stranger, I would instinctively transfer the penny for the left pocket to the right pocket. And here's what I discovered.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:16:57]:
Whatever I lack in skill, I make it up in numbers. Just like I was cold calling telemarketing, just like I was building my rent a kit business, knocking on all the doors in my neighborhood, See if I cut the grass, shovel sidewalks, over newspapers, do odd jobs, whatever I lacked in skill, I made it up in numbers. And then the more times I would do that, I would eventually build my confidence as a proof of concept because I built my confidence on the look at all the holes. I knocked on all the doors I knocked on the other day. Right? Yeah. And so what I realized was, one day I was out raising money, and I really learned about integrity because when I was growing up, I didn't have in the integrity. And then when I go into my late twenties or thirties, I had selective integrity. It was always a hidden agenda of what's in it for me, And I would use integrity to my veins, so I had integrity when I wanted something from somebody.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:17:43]:
What can I get from somebody? Mhmm. And then I really got Coached and beaten up on my coaches in my forties to realize then that I had selective integrity. I've been sound out, and I've been exposed. And that was a huge breakthrough for me, which was a blind spot for me. And what I realized was one day I was trying to raise money And I flew into this city. I didn't have any money. I was up and down financially. I borrowed some money, for an airline ticket for came for my hotel, And I was wanting to raise $50,000 from this accredited investor, this high net worth accredited investor.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:18:15]:
So this is before Uber, so I get to the hotel. I'm sitting at a Holiday Inn because they have free continental breakfast, and I call the guy up, and I'm like, hey. Can you come to the hotel, And I'll buy you breakfast. I was lying. Just trying to get in the hotel. I was lying. There's no free there's no free I'm not gonna buy him breakfast. It's a free cuddle of breakfast For original hotel guests only.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:18:34]:
So the guy's like, well, can't you just come to my office? Well, I couldn't afford a rental car, couldn't afford truck public transportation. I didn't have the money for a taxi, and it was a few miles away from the hotel. So I'm like, oh my gosh. Like, what am I gonna do? How am I gonna get to this guy's office? I gotta pitch this guy and sell this guy because I gotta get a check for $50,000. So the guy says, fine. I'll come to the hotel. He comes to the hotel, he walks in, he sees signs everywhere for registered hotel guests only. He sit down with me And he said and I only have 30 minutes with this accredited investor, so I had to lunge into pitching and selling him on this startup company that I'm involved with.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:19:08]:
We're about 90 seconds into it. Teri, he looks at me. He says, Darren, I need you to shut up or I'm gonna walk out the door. He goes, shut up. He starts yelling at me in this, in this room. And he said, listen, I've had enough. He goes, Darren, I need you to stop pitching and selling me. I need you to listen.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:19:22]:
First of all, number 1, I'm not gonna write you a check for $50,000 a day. This is too high risk. I don't do speculative deals. Second thing is I'm gonna provide you with some value. Hopefully, it makes a difference in your life. If not, it's been a great time meeting you, and I wish you all the best of your life. It was like a punch in the face. Wow.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:19:37]:
He said to me, so listen. You have to understand that whenever you deal with somebody who's successful on the other side of the table, Who is accredited investor, a high net worth, or ultra high net worth investor, somebody who's through a lot of trial and error have got to where they are? You didn't understand that they do not wanna be pitched your soul. They wanna be educated and informed. He goes, right now, you are repelling me For 1 to ever be around you ever again, and I just can't wait to run the door, get away from you because you're pitching and selling. He said, well, you need to start doing is start Educate, inform me, and show me how we can solve a problem together and how by solving the problem can serve people, And then I'd wanna invest in that and then write a check for $50,000. And that day changed my life because I stopped pitching and selling because I did it for so many years pitching and selling on the telephone, knocking on doors, cold calling, meeting people, pitching and selling, To then stepping back and saying, okay. How can I build a relationship with people so they get to know me and like me and trust me? We start to build relationship equity, And if business comes out, great. If business does not come out of it, great.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:20:42]:
But I wanna become relational versus transactional. And I was up until that point, Teri, I was a transactional person making 400 cold calls a day, 2,000 cold calls a week, transaction, transaction, transaction. What I realized was I wanna get away from that. So I started to start getting to know people and build relationships with people So they get to know me and like me and trust me, we built that relationship equity. And once I establish relationship equity in a foundation of trust And credibility and rapport, then opportunities and money would change hands. But I was screwing it up and doing it the wrong way, and that's why I was always financially broke and always up and down and I was struggling to pay my bills in the end of the month, and my credit really was a disaster, all that stuff. So as I started to educate, inform people, Things started to change, or people started to get to know me, like me, and trust me over a period of time that happened overnight. Then all of a sudden, opportunities started to coming at a higher level.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:21:35]:
I started to attract people versus repel people because people wanna be around me. And I learned a lot about relationships because it's Mhmm. Because if you look at social media today, a lot of people will friend request you, and then boom, right into your inbox to try and pitch or sell you on opportunity. And and and are you attracted to Repel Lepers? You just can't wait to delete the message Yeah. So you get to know people. So I take a lot of people hiking these days, And I do hiking funders all the world to build schools because on a hiking trail, first of all, when you take somebody out in the wilderness, they have to learn to trust you. Because you're taking on the wilderness where all the what ifs, yeah, buts come up in the brain. Mhmm.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:22:10]:
Right? So when you take somebody out hiking versus golfing or playing pickleball, I think it's on a golf course and they feel safe or pick them up feeling safe. I take out the wilderness, people feel unsafe. It was like, oh my gosh. Is there wild animals that are here? We have to climb a mountain? Am I gonna run water? Am I gonna pull up or forward or not to the bathroom? We got all these things come up. All these what else? All these unknowns. So I I use hiking today as a way to really get to connect with people, and even if people were not even into hiking, then we'll go for a walk, but we'll do some physical experiential Tiffany, we're breathing the fresh air, we're getting some sunlight, we're getting some, you know, great energy coming from nature or the trees to really connect deeper with you without any distraction.
Teri Holland [00:22:52]:
So how did you when you first made that switch from being very transactional to relationship building,
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:23:00]:
Teri Holland [00:23:00]:
were some of the steps you took or how did you even learn how to develop those skills? So what are some ways that we can start doing that in our own businesses and start applying that?
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:23:09]:
So it's an uncomfortable exercise, but we all have an inner circle. We all have people around us in our inner circle. What I did is an uncouple extras. I went to people who really believe in me and love me and care about me and want the best for me. I'd say, listen, Can I ask you, like, just a one straight up question? And then like, sure. Where is it in my life that you see that I'm aware? I I'm self aware. And where is it in my life that you see that I'm unaware? That's a blind spot. Where are my blind spots that you see that I don't see? What are my blind spots? Where am I self aware and where am I unaware? And so I get a balance of support and challenge.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:23:50]:
Right? Support and challenge.
Teri Holland [00:23:51]:
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:23:52]:
I I it's balance of support and challenge. So they're gonna here's where I'm self aware, I get support. Here's where I'm unaware, here's the challenge. Here's your blind spot. And I would go to people and feel it really uncomfortable sometimes. I'd be wet. I'd be shaking. Right? I bet.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:24:05]:
And they would some people would just be you know, some people would Sugar coating and kinda be really nice to me, and some people would just be straight up blunt with me. I'm like, oh my gosh, that stings, but it's true. And that's where I started to to go. In fact, I do this now as a quarterly exercise. It's in my calendar, and every 90 days, I go to People might enter circle or people that work with me, and I say, where am I self aware? Where am I unaware of my life? And what are my blind spots that you see? And I get feedback from people, and I get the support, and I get the challenge. It's a valuable exercise, but it's uncomfortable. It's like a muscle going to the gym. You gotta develop it, And you build strength over time after doing it a a number of times.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:24:45]:
But that's a big thing for me. It was a big breakthrough for me in my life Because I wanted to look good and I didn't wanna look bad. And I had this self image and this ego of wanting to look good and wanting to impress people, But yet other people could see right through it. I just couldn't see through because I had such a mask and a facade on. Right. And so I really learned vulnerability And, it was powerful for me. So that's the key thing is, where am I self aware? Where am I unaware? Because the people around you that are around you, a lot of times, they know your strengths and weaknesses. You know, I I have a lot of people come to me all the time, Teri, and they go, you know, Darren, I I need to hire a coach.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:25:17]:
I'm like, okay. Mhmm. They go, I need to get a coach. Also, a man called me up or emailed me or text me, I need to get a coach. Like, okay. What do you wanna coach for? I need a life coach. I need a whole life coach. Wanna work for my whole life.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:25:27]:
Okay. Great. Said, can I ask you a couple questions? Yeah. Are you in a relationship right now? Yes. Are you married or gaining someone? Yes. I have a wife. Okay, great. Your best Coach in your life is your significant other or your partner.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:25:40]:
People, what do you mean? They know your strengths, They know your weaknesses, they know your insecurities, they know your fears, your doubts, your worries, and they know your blind spot. The question is, what you're gonna go out and pay a coach for, These people can give you constructive feedback, but you don't wanna hear it. Right? How many times you go to therapy or counseling, they're like, oh my gosh. My wife tells me that all the time. I you know, walk in the call session, but I heard the same stuff this this this council we're paying. All I was gonna do is tell them to say something to me that my wife should tell me for years. But we don't wanna take the advice from people who love and care about us some love. Right? Other than just keep just getting credit.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:26:14]:
I have a lot of friends of mine who are professional coaches who do it for a full time living.
Teri Holland [00:26:17]:
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:26:17]:
But the key thing is, Are we open to that constructive feedback? And that's the thing is that if you wanna play in a high performance level like, I'm training right now. I just did Mount Kilimanjaro Earlier this year that I never thought I'd ever do in my entire life at 19,340 feet in elevation. Right? Totally out of my mind. I said, take a year of training. Now I'm training for January 2025 to summit Mount Vincent, coldest place on Earth in Antarctica. K? I'm totally reinventing myself, reinventing everything about my daily Habits, my daily routines, my calendar, anything about my life, my association to what I put on my plate. Right? Like, I have a, you know, I have a I have a salad here. I have a salad.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:26:55]:
This is what I need. Like, who would ever thought that I would be eating a salad like this with chicken in? And then I got a metric that recorded on an app, so I have accountability responsibly. But friends of mine who know me 2 years ago were drinking, you know, all this water that I'm drinking. This has got vitamin c in it, but drinking, you know, 6 of these a day. I'm drinking a lot of water a day. Never thought I'd ever do that, but I wanted to level up myself in terms of longevity And take care of my body because throughout my life, I was out of integrity with my health and fitness. Until one day, just a few years ago, I'm in Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada, speaking at a real estate conference with about 1200 people. I'm getting dressed in my hotel room about to go on stage, and I realized that my buttons on my brand new dress shirt are about to Pop.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:27:36]:
And I'm trying to figure out in my mind how I'm gonna stand on stage because they're following me and televised on the internet how I'm not gonna blow my buttons. And I realized at that moment in life, time will either promote you or time will expose you. It's just a matter of time whether you get promoted, you get exposed. At that moment, I realized I was being exposed in my life for not taking care of my health, My fitness and my nutrition. So what do I do? Here I am clumsy kid in sports. I thought I'm gonna go do epic adventures. One big epic adventure a year It scares the crap out of me, but it causes me to be focused, accountable, responsible, committed, disciplined, And have to report on a daily and weekly basis to a coach or a mentor or a team of people. Right? And that way, I'm gonna do some epic adventure every year that caused me to take care of my health, my fitness, and my nutrition.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:28:27]:
So that caused me because we'll do more for other people than we will for our ourselves. And so that's why you see my social media, I'm always about building schools for the most, you know, impoverished children on the planet through Link Foundation e two e, Because I won't let those kids down in the village around the world. I don't wanna see people struggle. I don't wanna see people in pain or hurt. Right? So what I do is I'll dedicate my life to that cause, and that's philanthropy and charity for me. People say, why are you so passionate about doing Elevate to Educating? Why are you so passionate link by the way? So don't always choose around the world because it holds me accountable to not let other people down. And therefore, They get what they want. I get what I want.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:29:04]:
It's win win.
Teri Holland [00:29:07]:
So let's go I wanna hear more about Sure. Mount Kilimanjaro and your training for that. Cause you know, some people when they'd wanna get in shape physically, they might just go to the gym, but you go to a whole other level, literally a whole other level. So first of all, like, what is it why did you choose to climb these mountains as opposed to doing some other adventure? And also, what is the training like that you go through and how do you prepare mentally
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:29:34]:
for those challenges? So I'll share with you a thing about the gym. I, up until age 48, I'd never been in the gym before in my life. Wow. 51 years of age now, and I drove by many times. I just growing up, I just did not associate. It was not high on my value list to ever work out in a gym. It was like an artificial environment. I I like walking.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:29:52]:
I felt incompetent. I felt like, well, I don't think about how to use this equipment or, Yo. How how you I don't know how to do any of this stuff. It was too overwhelming for me, and it was too confronting and too scary. So what happened was I went to a gym, And I went to my 1st day gym and I'm a highly visual learner. I'm very visual. And so I will if I go to a yoga class, I'll watch A man or woman in the class about how they're doing their technique and I'll start to model it and visualize it by line. So I go to a gym, I'm on the treadmill, And there's this girl in front of me on a stair master and I and she just cranks him.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:30:24]:
She's going really fast. I'm thinking, how the heck does she do that? I'm watching her technique and her strategy. I think, wow. She's just going for it. Right? She's got her music going. So I'm watching her, and I Speed up my treadmill. I flew off the back of the treadmill, and I broke 3 ribs. My 1st day in the gym.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:30:39]:
1st day ever in a gym, broke 3 ribs. Went flying off the back of the treadmill, But ran into a bunch of equipment, banging a bunch of equipment behind me, and I'm laying flat on the floor and these people come running over to me and they wanna call 911 and bring the ambulance to paramedics. They're like, no. No. I end up going to the hospital, work 3 ribs. So here I am thinking, oh my gosh. You know, they say you go to the gym to be uncomfortable and go through pain. Well, I went through a lot of pain.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:31:01]:
I worked through risk first day.
Teri Holland [00:31:02]:
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:31:03]:
So when I'm there, I'm thinking to myself, do I wanna come back? Then I felt really stupid, felt embarrassing, man. If I come back, your people gonna remember me as the guy flying off the the back of the treadmill. And so what happened was I went to a gym again with a couple people, and then they're more about taking pictures and doing selfies or social media than actually doing High intensity training. So I pulled up a couple friends of mine who I saw on social media that rode hiking, and I thought, I can go hiking. So I went on a hike with him. There was more like a 45 minute to an hour hike. The kids in Atlanta just go hiking. So, Teri, I go on this hike with 2 real estate agents.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:31:37]:
I going up the thing. I'm stopping and going, stopping going out of shape. I'm out of breath. It took me 2 hours and 40 minutes to get to the top of this hill, this bunny hill. K. I get to the top, the 2 people I'm with had to head off to go do open houses because they're real estate agents. They leave me at the top. I am scared and terrified.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:31:55]:
I'm totally out of breath, totally exhausted.
Teri Holland [00:31:57]:
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:31:58]:
I think myself, I gotta get back down to my car before it gets dark. And I don't wanna call 911. I don't wanna call the fire department or call search and rescue because I'll feel stupid and embarrassed coming up in this little bunny hill, this little hike that Elementary school kids could do. So I sat there and I talked myself into going back down the hill. I get back in the bottom of the hill. I get into my car, sit there, like, oh my gosh. This is like exotic. This is like 4 or 5 hours later.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:32:22]:
Right? Mhmm. I get there and I said to myself, I don't want to live my life this way anymore. Made it. I got so disgusted with myself, Teri, at that moment, my, my disgusting self to myself, because pea most people will not make a change until they're in the crisis. Yeah. At that moment, I realized what I, I, I, I need to change my life. I need to level up and skill up. So I made a decision and that moment on, I was gonna commit 1 hour a week to start hiking.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:32:47]:
This is just a few years ago. Okay? 1 hour became 2 hours. Now I hike on average of, well, 50, 60 miles, 82, 90, 100 kilometers a week consistently. I'm obsessed with Viking. Okay? Then what happened was about 18 months ago, I have a friend of mine who was following me on social media, on Facebook like you do, And he started to see me document my journey of me releasing 43 pounds in weight from hiking. I I dropped 43 pounds in weight Wow. Consistently hiking. K? And, you know, trails when I started, today, they're just a warm up for me now.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:33:21]:
But before, like, I would I would stress and think, oh my god. I'm gonna climb this hill that would the average just could do it in 40 minutes to an hour. Then that would I was seeing my mind, like, I'm, like, I'm gonna be able to get back. And so what happened was a buddy of mine called me up. He says, hey, Darren, I'm turning 40 in July of, you know, in in 2023. He goes, would you consider in July of 2023 to climb in Mount Kilimanjaro? I said, absolutely not. He goes, what? Why would you take yourself out of the game? I said, Listen, I'm not an athlete. I don't have the genetics.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:33:50]:
I don't have the DNA. I'm not wired that way. He goes here. I see what you're doing with these hikes, and I think you could train for it. You gotta hear it trained for it. So he enrolled me to doing it even though it was a hard no. And I and I thought, you know what? I'm gonna throw my head on the fence. I'm gonna train for I'm gonna do it.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:34:06]:
It was the most challenging, physically, emotionally I ever did was climbing Mount Kilimanjaro, but it it built my self Confidence and give me a new perspective on life of taking care of my my human body that needs to. Realize that when my body wanted to quit, my mind still wanted to go. And I when I got to the top at 19,340 feet, the rooftop of Africa and Tanzania, East Africa on July 14, 2023 at 7:20 AM, I know that dates like somebody knows their their when their son or daughter is born, because it was a milestone event for me. I realized, wow, What I accomplished but the cool thing about it also was, Teri, was the outpouring of people from around the world who've known me for many years and some just started following me. People I've known for many years who knew that I was not the athletic guy, I was not the sports guy, I was quite clumsy, and how much of an Inspiration and ripple of impact that I had on people's lives around the planet. And I encouraged Medi Hill to get off the couch into action, Into fitness clubs and into gyms and yogas and Pilates and some of this, and I created this movement. And then when I came back to Vancouver, Canada From doing film and journal, I had all these people through social media and people in Vancouver want to start coming out hiking with me. And then we started collaborating on the hiking trails, and we were like, oh my gosh.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:35:20]:
Darren, you and Tatiana have this international foundation called Link Foundation. Why don't you start doing a hiking for a cause, like a hikeathon where people come out, They pay a registration fee. They get corporate sponsorship. You do an event for a few hours. You raise money that they get taxes. He's that money then goes to build a school. So this is how this all unfolded, was through my crisis of wanting to release weight and get in better shape. Now I've created something called E2E Elevate TO Educate where people go to hiking fundraiser.com.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:35:49]:
Right? They go to hiking fundraiser.com, and we list different hikes throughout North America, and then people come out And they hype. Yeah. They connect, they network, they collaborate, and the money we raise from that then build the school for some of the most impoverished chill on the planet. And it's it's a great humanitarian project, and people are so enriched. They have so much joy and fulfillment and fun and laughter, And people are creating incredible memories and experiences, and people are coming together as strangers and connecting now through social media because they're now involved in the humanitarian project of serving other people And create a ripple impact in helping the most impoverished children on the planet to have an education as the next generation.
Teri Holland [00:36:28]:
That's incredible. Yeah. Absolutely incredible. Yeah. So what are, what are some of the habits that you've adopted and and practices that you have every day that keep you going and helps keep you focused?
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:36:43]:
Great questions. So what I do every day is, read 10 pages a day of a good book. So whether it's if you read or listen to audio, because a lot of people listen to audibles today. So When I grew up, I had learning this morning and reading this morning. I was labeled that in school. So I always struggled in school was reading. Right? Very short attention span, was not good at reading, had limiting beliefs around that, some childhood trauma because I was told by teachers I'd never amount to much and never be able to read. So what I do is I read 10 pages a day.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:37:08]:
Now it's easy to do, and it's easy not to do, But if you take 10 pages a day times 365 days in a calendar year, that's 3,650 pages. You don't realize these are just 10 10 10 pages a day. So what I do is I do daily small daily consistent actionable steps consistently compounded over a period of time. So I read 10 pages a day. Every day I journal. Right? So I write things out in my life and I also have a journal. I also what I do too is I have my top 10 so I have over 7,000 written goals right now for my life, And my goal is to get to 10,000 written documented goals. I've worked working on this for years.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:37:51]:
Achieve them, check them off, write new goals on. I'm always writing checking goals off. And I like to write things down on paper because it's like a it's like a legal contract. When you write it on paper, you believe it more to be true because it's written, it's documented. Right? In our head. And so what I do is I have written goals, but then what I do is on the 7,000 written goals, every year I take ten Goals and I turn them into personal promises to myself. What do I give my word to? What do I promise? Because when I say it's a goal, I give an examples. So one of the things I do every day now is I exercise.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:38:26]:
This climbing Mount Kilimanjaro, I now exercise 2 hours a day. Right? So I I hike almost every single day, rain or shine to the earth the weather And I took it from having a goal of 2 hours a day to now becoming a standard. It's not a should, it's a must. It's standard. K. So when people say, you know, I'd love to, read my children's story time every day, but I've got a busy life, got a busy household. If you make it a standard, then everyday it's a standard, it's a non negotiable to daily non negotiable, then over time it becomes a habit. So I changed my goals to standards.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:39:00]:
Right. K. Different mindset. And then what I do is I have my top 10 personal promises every year, And then what I do is every day in my journal, I hand write out my personal promises. Okay? I hand write them out. And then what else do too, I think I have it right here. Do I have it? No. I don't.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:39:19]:
It's upstairs. I have another thing. I have laminated my top 10 personal promises, And I look at it multiple times a day. So my my personal promises are my goals. Right? I look at them every day. So if you see on my social media, Like, what I do is I have, for example, I have a picture so, like, on my my app this is my picture of my dog, but every hour, I have a different picture pop up on my iPhone. K? Oh, cool. And so I have my goals of things I wanna achieve my so I have a picture of my ideal body Of what I'm working towards is the the future self of myself.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:39:55]:
Every 3 hours, it pops up on my iPhones of what my future self and my body is looks like. So it's always pulled me towards my standards and my goals and my dreams, who I want to become. So these small, daily, consistent, actionable steps Consistently come out of work for your time to shape who I am. So I read every day. Right? 10 pages a day. I exercise every day. I journal every day. I do a meditation for 7 minutes every morning that's in a it's a recurring, meditation every in my calendar that a friend of mine gifted me, Who's very big into meditations, and I listened to it for 7 minutes every morning.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:40:32]:
It's about gratitude and self love because one of my things I really haven't working on my life is that One of my limiting beliefs is that I don't feel I'm worthy of love. That's what my mind share, my self talk says from childhood, is that I'm not worthy of love. So what I do is I when it comes in, I'll self sabotage, intimate relationships around me because I feel that I'm not worthy of love. That voice or voice go in my head that I'm not worthy of love. So I work all the time on vulnerability and authenticity and realize, okay, where am I worthy of love? So I have a meditation every morning for 7 minutes to constantly keep reminding me that I'm worthy of love. So I have that internal dialogue constantly going that I'm I'm worthy of love because we all have it as as a human being, whether it's not smart enough, not good enough, not worthy enough. We all have this this story from our childhood. I was, talking to someone recently.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:41:22]:
I won't mention the name, very famous Mhmm. Musician, Well known person. And he was telling me that, he realizes now as he's gotten older and he's been celebrity for many, many years, Very famous, very well known globally. He was saying, Darren, imagine being a young boy and you become a celebrity at a very young age. You're on TV all over the world, The paparazzi, the media, and everyday you go to work, which is your artist to perform and and create music and Perform music around the world and your music can live concerts and movies and all that stuff and it's people play it all the time. It's all over the world. And every day you go to work at the end of your work, you get a stand ovation. So you're you're doing 200 concerts in a year, and now you're getting 200 stand ovations a year.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:42:06]:
And then 1 year, you don't go off the road. He goes COVID nineteen was devastating for me because I never went on the road to travel because of the lockdowns, and he goes, I went into a deep, dark depression And almost all of the drugs and alcohol. And he said, you become addicted. He said, at least I did. He he said, I became addicted to having that stand ovation of people cheering you and taking pictures of auto grabs and you everywhere you go, people wanna meet you and you become this celebrity and it becomes a part of you as your identity. And so I realized in my life, even when I was traveling the world doing all these corporate training seminar, train a 100,000 people a year, my identity became Came that way. And people said, why don't you ever wanna become more well known or famous? I like to be low profile high impact. People say, why do you wanna become low profile back? Because I've I've been out for dinner with celebrities in California and Los Angeles, like, Walmart celebrities.
Teri Holland [00:42:53]:
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:42:53]:
And and I went for dinner with them, and and the The dinner's constantly disrupted with people coming up for selfies and autographs and want to talk to them. I thought, do I wanna live out this way? Do it how am I gonna be able to manage Successful relationship. When I'm out on a date night and I'm constantly being bombarded by people, is that is that a quality of life? Is that the return on life and return on energy I want for my life? People get off of that. Yeah. We had rather be low profile, high impact.
Teri Holland [00:43:18]:
I love that. I think that's great. If you had to do it all over again, if you had to start from scratch tomorrow, is there anything that you would do differently on your journey? Or
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:43:32]:
Teri Holland [00:43:33]:
Or would you change anything?
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:43:35]:
Number 1, keep my keep my word. If I start all over again, realizing in the early days, I never kept my word. I was not reliable. I was not consistent. I'd show up late and they'd be disrespectful. So the one Yeah. My word is my world. So I would do it all again is that realizing that my word creates my world and that, like, you and I could meet 20 times And 19 other times I'm early and on time, that one time I'm late, I'm forgiven because I have a consistent track record of always been early and on time.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:44:04]:
So the key thing is what I do is I live by my calendar. So in my calendar, I always say if it's not structured in my calendar, There's no evidence that exists in my life. And then what's in my calendar, I have email and text message reminders, and I also, every day, I go to my phone and as you can see, I have alarm set.
Teri Holland [00:44:25]:
Oh, yeah. So
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:44:25]:
I I have alarm set for everything in my day. I have alarm set. So what happens is I'm always on time and always in place. So if I have to be at a meeting, there's transition time, couple minutes. So that way I get become because so if I had to go back in my life, I'd realize that, number 1 is my integrity Because without integrity, nothing works. Mhmm. There's no workability. Second thing is Right.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:44:50]:
I make a lot more requests. And what I realized is that Yeah. When we make a request, people either will accept, decline, or counter offer. It's something I always share with people is like an exercise. Is number 1 is, if people are open to this, like a bonus opportunity, number 1 is take a look at your life, like an audit of where am I not requesting in my life? This is something I do all the time. It's a question. I have 2 questions. 1 is, where am I not requesting in my life? And take a look.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:45:19]:
Whatever area where you have a loss of power or freedom or self expression is where you're not requesting. So it could be around finance, could be around your health, could be around date nights, could be around relationship, could be around building a business. Feels like, man, I'm really struggling to build my business. Why are you asking for recommendations Or or endorsements or referrals. Right? So where am I not requesting in my life? So the question number 1 is where am I not requesting? And take a look. Where are you not requesting your life? 2nd question is, who do I become when I'm not making requests? So just notice the behavior, notice your action, notice your character because behavior never lies. Who do you become when you're not making requests? Are you expanding or contracting. Are you coming from abundance and prosperity or lasting scarcity? Are you being stingy? Are you being generalist? Are you being contributionally either go giver or go getter? Because I find when people are not making request, Their their life is not being fulfilled with a lot of prosperity and abundance because people wanna contribute.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:46:20]:
People wanna give. People wanna make a difference. Right. We're taught as children, don't talk to strangers, but you have strangers, everything we want need and desire in our lives. And so the thing is strangers, when we talk to strangers, opportunities live inside of talking to strangers. Now you gotta trust your intuition, trust your gut. You gotta trust and also verify and do your due diligence and go through discovery process of people, do your due diligence, but also get the chance to meet people. There's no shortage of people on the planet.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:46:48]:
So when people say, my gosh, I wanna make more money. We'll go serve more people and solve more problems. By solving problems, you can make more money. So go solve more problems. Find out what people want. When you watch the news media, don't watch it as a sign of getting depressed, But watch as I'm looking as you what this is your to do list because this is where the mass of the population right now are struggling. Uh-huh. Yeah.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:47:10]:
And how can you serve the masses by solving the problem? So when people are complaining the place of work in the coffee shop or people complain in the in the in the lunch room at at work, they complain all the time. Say, okay, great. How can I turn these prejudices into opportunities? Another thing what I realized in my life growing up, if I was to turn the clock and go back again, Number 1 is I wouldn't do it by myself. I would build teams much earlier and much faster because what I realized is that most of my goals and dreams Do not require my actions. I'll say that again. Most of my goals and dreams do not require my actions. It's all about creating teams and teamwork. I have over 7,000 written goals and people say, oh my gosh, Jaren, how are you ever gonna achieve over 7,000 goals in your lifetime? I said, no.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:47:58]:
I don't have to because most of my goals and dreams do not require my action. We have artificial intelligence day. We have technology. We have virtual assistants. We have apprenticeship programs. We have, youth leadership programs. You can get college universities of people to come do practicums And work experience. You can get volunteers.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:48:16]:
There's multiple different ways that you can get people to help you To actually fulfill on achieving your personal personal goals and dreams.
Teri Holland [00:48:26]:
Incredible. Well, Darren, I wanna thank you so much for joining me today. I know I've learned a lot from you in these 45 minutes. I know that everyone listening has learned a lot from you And, do you have any final thoughts or last words of advice that you'd like to share before we close-up?
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:48:44]:
Yeah, for sure. Remember in your life, Never assume you're not being observed. Never assume that you aren't being observed. And if you're struggling right now or you're Driving whatever's going on in your life, never assume that you're not being observed. People are always watching. They're always observing whether you're online, on social media, on the Internet, or you're offline. People are always watching and observing. So the key thing is is always be your word because a lifetime will either promote you or time will expose you.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:49:15]:
It's just a matter of time where you get promoted, you get exposed. If you remember that time line approval, your time will expose you and never assume you're not being observed. People always watch observing you. So not embellishing things, not exaggerating things, being on Yeah. Being integral, being your word, being consistent with that is so important because behavior never lies. And I wish I would have known that earlier in my life because it was a blind spot to me. Mhmm. Because as I got older and I made a lot of mistakes and a lot of adversity, a lot of failures, a lot of challenges, I could avoid and mitigate a lot of those challenges and setbacks and financial pressures if I just would have somebody would have confirmed me at a young age and, Darren, You're not being a man of integrity.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:49:55]:
You're not being your word. Right. And that would've just completely disrupted my life, and I would've, of course, corrected myself. Right? Yeah. And so that's a big thing for people is realizing that never assume you're not being observed and time while they promote your time will expose you. It's just a matter of time.
Teri Holland [00:50:13]:
Thank you for that.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:50:14]:
Teri Holland [00:50:16]:
And where should people go to learn more about you or Connect with you on social media where Yeah.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:50:22]:
You can always Google my name, Sir Darren Jacklin, or you can go to hiking fundraiser.com. Hiking fundraiser. Is kind of our main site, and all the information is there. You can find me at least everything that we're doing with social media. And if you want, come out to, one of the e two e elevate to educate hikes sometime. You'll meet some great inspiring people. It's a great community of like minded people. It's a lot of fun and we make a big difference and, the thing is Just just be warn people that when you leave, you're gonna multiply and expand your energy.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:50:51]:
So just be mindful that that's one of the side effects is that You will multiply and expand your energy, come out to one of our hikes because it just magnifies your energy. So if you're low on energy or you wanna multiply or have more energy for Your life or your relationship or your kids, your family, come out with us and we'll multiply and expand your energy. We'll give you a better return on life and a better return on energy.
Teri Holland [00:51:10]:
Well, thank you so much. This has been great.
Sir Darren Jacklin [00:51:12]:
I'm grateful to be here and be in service.
Teri Holland [00:51:16]:
Make sure that you check out hiking fundraiser dot com. The link will be in the show notes. If you enjoyed this episode, if you got something out of it, share it with a friend who you think could also benefit from listening to this episode. And as always, please leave your 5 star review on whatever platform you are listening on. And if you're a fan of success in mind and you wanna have sneak peeks, Insights into these interviews, if you want to be invited to be a live audience member on upcoming episodes, then you need to join my live broadcast channel on Instagram. You'll find it at theTeriHolland on Instagram. I'll link that in the show notes as well. Thanks again for being here today, and I hope you have an amazing week.
Teri Holland [00:51:59]:
Bye for now.